The only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian. True or false?

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Post by Shake » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:59 pm

I have far more respect for agnostic Christians as I believe at least they're more honest about the knowledge question.

-Shake, the agnostic atheist

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Post by Greatest I am » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:20 pm

[quote=""Roo St. Gallus""]So...Greatest.

It seems that you are here to proselytize the membership.

You certainly seem to think that you are somehow superior to 'regular' Christians because you are 'gnostic'. That seemingly alludes to your 'knowing' something, probably hidden, or secret, that makes you superior. Why don't you just impart that knowledge to all of us here and then move on to other, greener, pastures?

I personally think it is because you really don't 'know' shit. But that's just my hypothesis.[/quote]

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Post by Greatest I am » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:22 pm

[quote=""Shake""]I have far more respect for agnostic Christians as I believe at least they're more honest about the knowledge question.

-Shake, the agnostic atheist[/quote]

Gnostic is what they called the ancients and the word agnostic means basically the same as Gnostic.

I agree with your first remark.

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Post by Roo St. Gallus » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:04 pm

[quote=""Greatest I am""]
Shake;684346 wrote:I have far more respect for agnostic Christians as I believe at least they're more honest about the knowledge question.

-Shake, the agnostic atheist
Gnostic is what they called the ancients and the word agnostic means basically the same as Gnostic.

I agree with your first remark.

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DL[/QUOTE]

Wow...That is semantic abuse if I've ever seen it.

So war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength, right?

Your assertions are becoming so obviously bullshit that I feel you should be turning your pile regularly and preparing to spread it on the north forty.
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Post by Roo St. Gallus » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:08 pm

Note here: An agnostic is the exact opposite of a Gnostic.

A Gnostic is one who claims to have special knowledge.
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Post by Hermit » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:17 am

[quote=""Greatest I am""]Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt[/quote]
This epigram was not attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt until 1987, and no primary source supporting the assertion that she is its author has been found to date. If you turn to the Quote Investigator you will discover that it is a streamlined version of what the historian Henry Thomas Buckle said during a conversation some time in the second half of the 19th century.

Turning to the maxim itself, it is worth noting that people who discuss ideas are not necessarily great of mind. They can also be pathetic wankers or cretins with delusions of intellectual grandeur.

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Post by Greatest I am » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:36 am

[quote=""Roo St. Gallus""]Note here: An agnostic is the exact opposite of a Gnostic.

A Gnostic is one who claims to have special knowledge.[/quote]

Get the quote where I di such.

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Post by Greatest I am » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:38 am

[quote=""Hermit""]
Greatest I am;684348 wrote:Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt
This epigram was not attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt until 1987, and no primary source supporting the assertion that she is its author has been found to date. If you turn to the Quote Investigator you will discover that it is a streamlined version of what the historian Henry Thomas Buckle said during a conversation some time in the second half of the 19th century.

Turning to the maxim itself, it is worth noting that people who discuss ideas are not necessarily great of mind. They can also be pathetic wankers or cretins with delusions of intellectual grandeur.[/QUOTE]

Sure, but not nearly as populated with them as average and small minds.

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Post by dancer_rnb » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:51 am

[quote=""Greatest I am""]
Roo St. Gallus;684351 wrote:Note here: An agnostic is the exact opposite of a Gnostic.

A Gnostic is one who claims to have special knowledge.
Get the quote where I di such.

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DL[/QUOTE]

I don't believe you can speak for all gnostics, any more than one orthodox christian can speak for even all orthodox christians, much less all mainstream christians.
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Post by Roo St. Gallus » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:12 pm

[quote=""Greatest I am""]
Roo St. Gallus;684351 wrote:Note here: An agnostic is the exact opposite of a Gnostic.

A Gnostic is one who claims to have special knowledge.
Get the quote where I di such.

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DL[/QUOTE]

I've read enough of Pagels and Rudolph to have more than an inkling of what you are spouting off about. To claim to be a Gnostic is to claim to have special knowledge that ordinary believers do not.

You use the term gnostic in its capitalized form as self-identification. I took that term and sought references; it's easy enough. It seems obvious to me that you haven't a very good idea of what it is you are claiming for yourself and you don't know what you are talking about. So...I guess you are an agnostic Gnostic.
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Post by Greatest I am » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:21 pm

[quote=""dancer_rnb""]
Greatest I am;684353 wrote:
Roo St. Gallus;684351 wrote:Note here: An agnostic is the exact opposite of a Gnostic.

A Gnostic is one who claims to have special knowledge.
Get the quote where I di such.

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DL
I don't believe you can speak for all gnostics, any more than one orthodox christian can speak for even all orthodox christians, much less all mainstream christians.[/QUOTE]

I agree.

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Post by Greatest I am » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:24 pm

[quote=""Roo St. Gallus""]
Greatest I am;684353 wrote:
Roo St. Gallus;684351 wrote:Note here: An agnostic is the exact opposite of a Gnostic.

A Gnostic is one who claims to have special knowledge.
Get the quote where I di such.

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DL
I've read enough of Pagels and Rudolph to have more than an inkling of what you are spouting off about. To claim to be a Gnostic is to claim to have special knowledge that ordinary believers do not.

You use the term gnostic in its capitalized form as self-identification. I took that term and sought references; it's easy enough. It seems obvious to me that you haven't a very good idea of what it is you are claiming for yourself and you don't know what you are talking about. So...I guess you are an agnostic Gnostic.[/QUOTE]

If this is your way of admitting you lied about what I posted, you show how small a mind and uncouth character you have.

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