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Post by Hermit » Tue May 16, 2017 2:42 am

As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. — H. L. Mencken

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Post by Hermit » Thu May 18, 2017 7:00 pm

"No politician in history...has been treated more unfairly," - Donald J. Trump


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Post by crazyfingers » Thu May 18, 2017 7:17 pm

Trumps comment only again demonstrates his 1: absolute self-centeredness and 2: lack of awareness of both distant and recent history.

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Post by Jackrabbit » Thu May 18, 2017 7:44 pm

[quote=""Hermit""]"No politician in history...has been treated more unfairly," - Donald J. Trump
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He doesn't deserve to be called a politician, because he doesn't know a fucking thing about it.

Correction: "No buffoon in history...has been treated more in line with what he deserves"
Moe: "Why don't you get a toupee with some brains in it?" <whack!>

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Post by Hermit » Thu May 18, 2017 8:52 pm

[quote=""crazyfingers""]Trumps comment only again demonstrates his 1: absolute self-centeredness and 2: lack of awareness of both distant and recent history.[/quote]
Indeed. Just when I wondered if trump could think of anything more absurd to say...

Someone ought to ask him to comment in public how he would rate the treatment he's getting in comparison to Nelson Mandela's.

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Post by lpetrich » Thu May 18, 2017 8:56 pm

I couldn't help but think of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. Right-wingers vilified them both as left-wing ogres, but they were both cautious centrists -- and sometimes cowardly ones. I remember how right-wingers denied some of their most cherished principles so that they could have something to be outraged about.

Like with Bill Clinton's firing of those travel agents. One would have expected right-wingers to have welcomed his opposition to government waste and to have firmly believed in the absolute sovereignty of employers over their workplaces, but instead, they made it out to be a great and terrible scandal.

Or Clinton's wanting to hire 100,000 cops. I never thought I'd live to see the day when right-wingers would be anti-cop.

Or Clinton's wars. I never thought I'd live to see the right wing take a position that right-wingers have long disparaged as everything from dangerously naive to outright treason.

Or birtherism. Donald Trump himself advocated birtherism about Obama.

Or Obamacare. When it was Heritagecare or Chaffeecare or Romneycare, the right wing did not seem very enthusiastic about it. But the right wing didn't hate it very much either. But with Obamacare, the right wing went into hysterics about "death panels" and how it represented a Federal takeover of the US's healthcare business.

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Post by MattShizzle » Thu May 18, 2017 9:51 pm

I just got out of facebook jail for a cartoon of Trump building his wall with his butt hanging out. 3 days. Weird thing is it happened within a second or 2 of posting - faster than people could have reported it.

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Post by lpetrich » Sat May 20, 2017 8:51 am

We remember fascism - Butterflies and Wheels quoting Robert Reich on Facebook:
European governments, preparing for a round of major summits with Donald Trump next week, are wary.

I spent much of the past week speaking with officials and cabinet ministers in Europe. All they wanted to talk about was Trump. Here, in summary, are the most frequent remarks I heard, in rough order of frequency:

1. Trump is unstable, and we’re not going to count on anything he says or commits to.

2. Trump doesn’t support NATO or European integration.

3. Trump is actively encouraging racist nationalists in our country.

4. Trump is allied with Putin to bring Europe down.

5. There’s no doubt Trump worked with Putin to win the U.S. presidential election.

6. If Trump’s polls drop too low, he’ll start a war in order to get Americans to rally around him. (Opinions varied on whether Trump’s war would be with North Korea, Iran, terrorists in Nigeria, or an escalation in Syria, Iraq, or Afghanistan.)

7. How did you Americans come to elect this ego-maniac? (Others called him an infant, moron, ignoramus, fool.)

8. He’s another Berlusconi (or Franco, Mussolini, Salazar, Hitler).

9. We remember fascism. We never thought it would happen in America.

10. The world depends on American leadership. We’re very worried.

My overall impression: Anti-Trump sentiment is even stronger in Europe than it is in the U.S. If Trump expects his European trip to give him a reprieve from his troubles at home, he’s mistaken.

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Post by lpetrich » Sat May 20, 2017 11:11 pm

Here's An Update On Some Of The Things Trump Has "Accomplished" As President, featuring a screenshot of Robert Reich
's assessment of Trump's presidency. He has broken many of his campaign promises:
  1. Not bombing Syria.
  2. Building a wall on the Mexican border.
  3. Draining the Washington swamp. He has instead hired some big swamp monsters.
  4. Repealing Obamacare and replacing it with something much better. He failed.
  5. Using his business experience in running his administration. Instead, it has been chaotic with lots of squabbling.
  6. Someday releasing his tax returns. He now states that he will never do so.
  7. Divesting his financial empire. He has done the opposite, continuing to manage his businesses.
  8. Claiming that Hillary Clinton was a lackey of Goldman Sachs. He then appointed some Goldman Sachs people in his administration.
  9. Claiming that he will surround himself with the best and brightest. Then doing the opposite, appointing opponents of departments to head them.
  10. Faithfully executing the law. But he claimed that Obama wiretapped him as a distraction from the FBI's investigation into collusion between his campaign and Russian agents.
  11. Claiming to know more about strategy and terrorism than his generals. Then that failed raid in Yemen.
  12. Claiming that he will spend his Presidency working instead of golfing like "vacationer in chief" Obama. Then spending much of his Presidency golfing.
  13. Calling mainstream news organizations "fake news" and the enemy. Getting news from right-wing "news" outlets like Fox News and Breitbart.

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Post by Abominable Intelligence » Sun May 21, 2017 5:37 am

[quote=""MattShizzle""]I just got out of facebook jail for a cartoon of Trump building his wall with his butt hanging out. 3 days. Weird thing is it happened within a second or 2 of posting - faster than people could have reported it.[/quote]

When you enter into a passive aggressive love affair with fascist cunts like Mark Chupaberga you get what you pay for.

George Orwell is spinning in his grave.

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Post by Hermit » Tue May 23, 2017 8:05 am

Trump confirms that he never did what nobody has accused him of.

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Mother: "Why is your brother crying?"
Son: "I did not kick him in the nuts."

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Post by lpetrich » Thu May 25, 2017 3:10 pm

First Lady Melania Trump Swats President Donald Trump’s Hand—Again -- as he tries to hold hands with her. Once in Tel Aviv, and once in Rome.

Obama Photographer Reminds The Trumps How Couples Hold Hands | HuffPost with a picture of Michelle and Barack holding hands.

Obama Marriage Body Language: One Aspect We Should All Emulate (PHOTOS) | HuffPost
Specifically, if you watch their body language carefully, you’ll see that Michelle and Barack communicate with each other in a way that is rare among presidential couples: when Michelle Obama is speaking, Barack makes eye contact with her and listens with interest to what she’s saying.

If you want to see just how rare that is, look at old footage of interviews with Laura and George Bush, Bill and Hillary Clinton and the elder Bushes. Go back a little further and look at footage of Nancy and Ronald Reagan, Pat and Richard Nixon and any others you can find. Here’s what you usually WON’T see: the President looking at his wife when she’s speaking. You’ll see lots of footage of presidential wives listening, usually with an adoring smile locked firmly in place, to their husbands, but it’s rare to see it the other way around. When Michelle Obama is speaking, though, Barack looks at her and listens. When he’s speaking, she looks and listens. It’s a refreshing exception, and a key to the respect that flows between them.

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Post by lpetrich » Thu May 25, 2017 3:39 pm

Melania Trump in black at the Vatican. Why? - BBC News

Both Melania and Ivanka Trump were wearing black dresses and black veils, though not very concealing veils. Like Michelle Obama, Laura Bush, Hillary Clinton, and others before them. That seems to be protocol for a woman visiting the pope, though a Catholic queen may wear white. Melania Trump seems to fit that description, as best as one can in a republic.

So that's why she seems like she is dressed like a widow.

Pope-Trump meeting agenda: Climate change, terrorism - CNNPolitics.com
"This is a gift for you. These are books from Martin Luther King. I think you will enjoy them," Trump told Francis, as he presented him with a first-edition set of King's writings, recalling the Pope's address to Congress in 2015 in which he quoted King.
The Pope's gift left no questions about its symbolism, presenting Trump with an olive tree medal crafted by a Roman artist that the Pope said symbolizes peace.
"We can use peace," Trump said.
"I signed it personally for you," the Pope offered.
They also talked about global warming and terrorism.

No record of whether they talked about how Donald Trump is guilty of all of the Seven Deadly Sins.


Earlier in the trip, Saudi King Salman presented Donald Trump with a medal, with Donald Trump bowing before him. Right-wingers howled when Barack Obama bowed before the Saudi King when he visited Saudi Arabia. President Trump receives Saudi gold medal - CNN Video

Also in SA, DT, King Salman and Egypt's President Sissi put their hands on a glowing orb to commemorate the opening of a center for combating "extremist ideologies". That orb was a globe of the Earth, with the continents opaque and the oceans semitransparent.

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Post by MattShizzle » Fri May 26, 2017 3:06 am

This is actually a petition - to say "Chinga tu madre" to him. That literally translates as "fuck your mother" which is pretty much the most offensive thing you can possibly say in Spanish. It shows what Spanish-speaking people think of him. I signed it.
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Post by lpetrich » Fri May 26, 2017 4:15 pm

Donald Trump shoved Montenegro's prime minister at NATO meeting

So as to be in the middle of the picture. What narcissism.


Trump scolds NATO allies over defense spending - CNNPolitics.com
"Twenty-three of the 28 member nations are still not paying what they should be paying and what they are supposed to be paying for their defense. This is not fair to the people and taxpayers of the United States," he said.

The call appeared to reveal Trump's continued misunderstanding of NATO members' defense commitments. While Trump argued that many of the allies "owe massive amounts of money from past years," the 2% defense spending benchmark that allies must meet is designed to boost their military, not to funnel money to NATO or other allies.

Trump's remarks -- paired with his conspicuous decision not to reiterate US commitment to NATO's mutual defense provision, Article 5 -- are likely to unsettle allies who had hoped to hear Trump assuage their concerns about his commitment to the historic alliance.

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Post by lpetrich » Fri May 26, 2017 4:16 pm

Donald Trump calls Germans 'bad, very bad' over trade
"Look at the millions of cars they’re selling in the US. Terrible. We will stop this,” Trump reportedly said of the Germans.

Here's the thing: the U.S. can't negotiate a deal with Germany alone. It has to deal with the entire EU, since Germany is a member state. Merkel reminded Trump of this when they met in March, noting that trade agreements with the U.S. have "not always been all that popular in Germany either."

Merkel meets with Obama, then Trump - CNNPolitics.com
On a day of odd political coincidences, Merkel sat down with one President she calls a friend and with whom she shares a political wavelength -- Barack Obama, and another, with whom she has had a frosty start -- Donald Trump.

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Post by lpetrich » Fri May 26, 2017 5:25 pm

Donald Trump and Emmanuel Macron just exchanged a white-knuckled handshake - CNNPolitics.com
"They shook hands for an extended period of time. Each president gripped the other's hand with considerable intensity, their knuckles turning white and their jaws clenching and faces tightening."
So Donald Trump has met his match in tight-grip handshakes.

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Post by Hermit » Fri May 26, 2017 5:39 pm

[quote=""lpetrich""]"Look at the millions of cars they’re selling in the US. Terrible. We will stop this,” Trump reportedly said of the Germans.[/quote]
The 10 Vehicles in the Donald Trump Car Collection
Well, seven of them as of April 2016.


Rolls-Royce Phantom
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Lamborghini Diablo
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Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
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Maybach
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Mercedes-Benz S600
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Ferrari
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Rolls-Royce 1950's Silver Cloud
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The rest are 2 Cadillacs, 1 Chevrolet and 1 Tesla. Makes 11, but who cares?

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Post by lpetrich » Fri May 26, 2017 6:46 pm

Let's see: 2 Rolls-Royces, 2 Mercedes-Benzes, 1 Maybach, 1 Lamborghini, and 1 Ferrari. That's 2 British, 3 German, and 2 Italian cars.

Trump Parody TV Theme Songs Set To Gilligan’s Island & All In The Family | boom 101.9

I love the Gilligan's Island one: "Republican's Island".

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Post by lpetrich » Sun May 28, 2017 9:25 am

Trump’s 'Home Run' Trip Leaves White House Happy, Europe Mixed - Bloomberg
Trump himself called the trip a “home run,” and aides agreed, delighted over the lack of major gaffes and their ability to keep Trump largely on script and far away from reporters. Even Trump’s Twitter account was uncharacteristically free of top-of-mind rants -- despite the storm that awaits his return the U.S., with son-in-law Jared Kushner getting pulled deeper into the FBI’s Russia probe.

As for some of the rough edges, White House officials shrugged, that was just Trump being Trump.
Seems like very low standards on their part.
In Trump’s telling of the trip, recounted Saturday to a friendly crowd of U.S. troops in Sicily, he made strong, new friends around the world and united global leaders against terrorism with a new sense of resolve following the May 22 bombing attack in Manchester. “We will win,” he declared.
Very narcissistic of him.

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Post by lpetrich » Sun May 28, 2017 9:30 am

How Polarizing Is Ivanka’s Fashion Label? Very - Bloomberg
But that’s not all: While liberals really don’t like the brand, conservatives are merely lukewarm.
Has some video called "Ivanka Trump: The Quiet Power Behind the President"

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Post by Hermit » Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:33 am

Sean Spicer on Trumvfefeisms:

My point is – it’s beyond whether or not it happened intentionally. Many of you may not like it, but the fact is that Donald Trump is the head of state and as such, it is within his legal right and power to decide how words in the English language are spelled, written, conjugated and all that good stuff. We have a beautiful language, but the thing about languages is – they’re living, breathing organisms. They change and they evolve along with the people who speak them, so it’s a natural progression. I wouldn’t be surprised if ‘covfefe’ turns up on Wikipedia or in dictionaries in schools throughout America as early as tomorrow. Because, that’s just one of the many perks of being President of the United States. It comes with the territory and it’s up to you to decide whether or not you want to use it.

No, that is not a parody concocted by The Onion, The Tonight Show or any other purveyors of satire. They could not make it up. FFS, even the Monty Python would have lacked the imagination to delve this deeply into surrealism.

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