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Old 17 Dec 2010, 09:22 PM   #184480 / #1
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The Rev. Robert Taylor, A.B., of Carey Street, Lincoln's Inn, and Mr. Richard Carlile, of Fleet-street, London, present their compliments as Infidel missionaries, to (as it may be) and most respectfully and earnestly invite discussion on the merits of the Christian religion, which they argumentatively challenge, in the confidence of their competence to prove, that such a person as Jesus Christ, alleged to have been of Nazareth, never existed; and that the Christian religion has no such origin as has been pretended; neither is it in any way beneficial to mankind; but that it is nothing more than an emanation from the ancient Pagan religion.

The researches of the Rev. Robert Taylor, on the subject, are embodied in his newly-published work, THE DIEGESIS, in which may be found the routine of their argument.

They also impugn the honesty of a continued preaching, while discussion is challenged on the whole of the merits of the Christian religion.

At home, for conversation, at any appointed time. 7, Rose Crescent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Taylor_(Radical)

He was imprisoned twice for blasphemy around 1830.

I have been puzzled by what is an obvious option is so overlooked.

If you question a godman, there are two equal possibilities - a man around whom legends accreted, or myth, turtles and story all the way down.

Fascinating to find the myth option has been expressly censored.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Z...page&q&f=false

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Thank you for that link, Clive. I've been reading it, and it's clear that the Rev. Taylor would have been a welcome member of the Secular Cafe, if he had been born in our time. I've found a number of his phrases would make excellent signatures- I'm quite taken with
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Unbelief is no sin that ignorance was ever capable of being guilty of.
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Taylor's explication of mythicism is well worth the time and effort, I'm finding. From Chap. VI, 'Admissions of Christian Writers':
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In studying the writings of the early advocates of Christianity, and fathers of the Christian church; where we should naturally look for the language that would indicate the real occurrence of the facts of the gospel, if real occurrences they had ever been; not only do we find no such sort of language, but every where, find we, any sort of sophistical ambages, ramblings from the subject, and evasions of the very business before them, as if of purpose to balk our research, and insult our scepticism. If we travel to the very sepulchre of Christ, we have only to discover that he was never there: history seeks evidence of his existence as a man, but finds no more trace of it, than of the shadow that flitted across the wall. The star of Bethlehem shone not upon her path, and the order of the universe was suspended without her observance. She asks with the Magi of the east, " where is he that is born King of the Jews," and like them, finds no solution of her inquiry, but the guidance that guides as well to one place as another; descriptions that apply to Esculapius, as well as to Jesus; prophecies, without evidence that they were ever prophesied; miracles, which those who are said to have seen, are said also to have denied that they saw; narratives without authorities, facts without dates, and records without names.

Where we should naturally look for the evidence of recentness, and a mode of expression suitable to the character of witnesses, or of those who had conversed with witnesses, we not only find no such modes of expression ; but both the recorded language and actions of the parties, are found to be entirely incongruous, and out of keeping with the supposition of such a character. We find the discourses of the very first preachers and martyrs of this religion, outraging all chronology, by claiming the honours of an even then remote antiquity, for the doctrines they taught.
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The cultivation of the mind and the continuance of the christian religion are incompatible.
It makes me wonder what the true purpose of religious schools is!
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