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Old 13 Dec 2011, 10:08 PM   #296702 / #1
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Default "The Greater Questions of Mary" (Epiphanius via Ehrman)

The lost Gospel of Judas Iscariot: a new look at betrayer and betrayed By Bart D. Ehrman


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"Epiphanius wrote an eighty-chapter book attacking Christian heretics and the Gospels they used. In the course of his discussion he mentions a Gospel about Mary Magdalene that sounds very bizarre indeed. In this account, Epiphanius alleges, Jesus took Mary to the top of a mountain and then in her presence pulled a woman out from his side (much as Eve came forth from Adam) and began having sexual intercourse with her. When he reached climax, he pulled out of her and consumed his own semen, telling Mary: "Thus must we do, that we may live." Mary, as one might understand, was shocked into unconsciousness. Epiphanius called this alleged book "The Greater Questions of Mary".
Another source for Epiphanius discloses that the text continues ...

Jesus awakens her, raises her up, and announces: "O person of little faith, why did you doubt?"



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Who said there is no explicit sex in new testament literature?

We are left to imagine what Mary's Greater Question to Jesus might have been.
Do you think you can pull (another) woman out of this thin mountain air?
According to Epiphanius, it looks like Jesus indulged in precisely that.



FWIW the English translation of Epiphanius is not available on the internet, and is available only in recently translated book form that is quite expensive. Epiphanius lived in the mid 4th century and devoted himself to a study of the heretics. He is regarded as an heresiologist. These are some extracts of his major work "The Panarion" on the net.





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I sometimes suspect the writers from that era were eating too much moldy rye bread...
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Hmmmm....

I guess all I have to say is that the author is a well respected biblical scholar.
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I sometimes suspect the writers from that era were eating too much moldy rye bread...
The Christian Bible was first widely published by scribes from that era. The only known "History of the Christian Church" was authored from that era, as was the lavish mockumentary, dedicated to Constantine, known as "The Historia Augusta". The forged correspondence between Paul and Seneca was authored from that era. The Nag Hammadi codices were physically manufactured during that era. Emperor Julian authored his satire against Constantine and Jesus during that era, as found in his Christmas message and Ode to the Saturnalia



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Hmmmm....

I guess all I have to say is that the author is a well respected biblical scholar.

Also see the recent English translation of the Source by Frank Williams.



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