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Old 01 Dec 2011, 04:11 PM   #290180 / #51
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She's likely to receive a fine, not a jail sentence.
Plus a big batch of social services reports I would guess.
yeah, at least something useful might come out of that
Perhaps one can hope that that was someones motive for pressing for arrest and a no doubt brief custody.
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Old 06 Dec 2011, 06:05 PM   #292306 / #52
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She was in court and will stay in custody until Jan 3.
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Old 06 Dec 2011, 06:37 PM   #292328 / #53
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Spending the holidays in custody?

That ought to sober her up a bit.
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Old 06 Dec 2011, 06:50 PM   #292342 / #54
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I wonder what's happening to her child over Christmas. It seems a bit tough on the family. I don't suppose she knew she was in breach of the law.
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Old 06 Dec 2011, 06:52 PM   #292345 / #55
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She certainly didn't appear fit to look after him that day on the tram.

Poor child.
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Old 06 Dec 2011, 06:53 PM   #292347 / #56
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Recently came across a book titled "The True War on Family: an invisible generation of children orphaned by the US Prison system", alleging that the disproportionate imprisonment of mothers from certain backgrounds has created negative cycles of crime in minority populations. I thought it sounded like an interesting thesis, though I did not have time to read very far into it. Not that racist folks in Britain are a disadvantaged group, but it made me think of it.
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Old 06 Dec 2011, 06:53 PM   #292348 / #57
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The article said she was being held "for her protection". Protection from who or what? From the public disgusted by her rant? Have there been threats against her?
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Old 06 Dec 2011, 06:55 PM   #292353 / #58
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Old 06 Dec 2011, 06:57 PM   #292355 / #59
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She has received death threats, apparently.
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I get mental whiplash from cases like this.

OK, so we've got someone with abhorrent views, tinged with a bit of violence.

And you (whoever made the death threats) think the best way to counter the abhorrence is to make abhorrent, violent threats?

I'm having a difficult time fathoming the mindset that goes there.
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Old 06 Dec 2011, 10:39 PM   #292461 / #61
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I wonder whether broadcasting the youtube clip might be illegal in its current form since it shows the child's features.
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I get mental whiplash from cases like this.

OK, so we've got someone with abhorrent views, tinged with a bit of violence.

And you (whoever made the death threats) think the best way to counter the abhorrence is to make abhorrent, violent threats?

I'm having a difficult time fathoming the mindset that goes there.
Welcome to the world, it's a bit crazy. Up north on the coast from here, there was a bit of a flap a few years ago when a small Indian tribe attempted to claim a right to whale hunting guaranteed to them by treaty; the ecologists of course flipped out and there were, I kid you not, bumper stickers floating around the PNW that read "Save a whale; Kill a Makah!"

Humans are a bit weak when it comes to perspective, scale, and ethical consistency.
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Old 07 Dec 2011, 12:36 AM   #292518 / #63
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Jeez.
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Old 07 Dec 2011, 04:01 AM   #292586 / #64
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MattShizzle, I suggest that you get some direct experience with trams some time. If you can think of an excuse to go to central Philadelphia, you can get on a tram that goes west from City Hall. It'll do so in a tunnel, but it'll come up to the surface after several blocks.

The driver would likely be in an enclosed cab, judging from what I've experienced in similar vehicles, so the most the driver could do is call a cop.


So she wants people other than Real Britons to go back to where they came from? Let's see what some of her ancestors might have said.

1066 CE: Those Normans should go back to where they came from!
800 CE: Those Danes should go back to where they came from!
450 CE: Those Angles and Saxons and Jutes should go back to where they came from!
43 CE: Those Romans should go back to where they came from!
500 BCE: Those Celts should go back to where they came from!
2700 BCE: Those Beaker people should go back to where they came from!
4000 BCE: Those farmers should go back to where they came from!
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Old 07 Dec 2011, 04:18 AM   #292590 / #65
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I had a co-worker once tell me that atheists should go back to where they came from.

I boggled at the simultaneous bigotry and stupidity.
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MattShizzle, I suggest that you get some direct experience with trams some time. If you can think of an excuse to go to central Philadelphia, you can get on a tram that goes west from City Hall. It'll do so in a tunnel, but it'll come up to the surface after several blocks.

The driver would likely be in an enclosed cab, judging from what I've experienced in similar vehicles, so the most the driver could do is call a cop.


So she wants people other than Real Britons to go back to where they came from? Let's see what some of her ancestors might have said.

1066 CE: Those Normans should go back to where they came from!
800 CE: Those Danes should go back to where they came from!
450 CE: Those Angles and Saxons and Jutes should go back to where they came from!
43 CE: Those Romans should go back to where they came from!
500 BCE: Those Celts should go back to where they came from!
2700 BCE: Those Beaker people should go back to where they came from!
4000 BCE: Those farmers should go back to where they came from!
There is a vogue on British TV about researching genealogy. I saw a programme a few years back where some ordinary Britons were asked about what they knew or thought about their ancestry. One very white guy believed his ancestors were all Anglo-Saxon. The researchers found that about 3 generations back he had immigrant ancestors of completely different types. I'm not sure IIRC but I think one of them was black African.
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